Apostasy?

There is a word that keeps coming to my mind. It comes at various times and in different places. It even comes to me as I am going to sleep at night, keeping me awake at times. Sometimes, I think the word will drive me crazy. I’m being serious. I’m not trying to be dramatic.

What is this dreaded word? Apostate.

Apostate, according to the dictionary, means one who commits apostasy. Apostasy is defined as:

1 : renunciation of a religious faith
2 : abandonment of a previous loyalty

I have my own definition, which I believe lines up better with the true, biblical thought. My definition of apostate is: Having departed from living according to God’s truth and will.

Remember, Jesus said, “Why do you call me Lord, Lord, and not do the things which I say?” This is apostasy. Oh, we can dot every “I” and cross each “T”, and be able to quote this or that scripture, but if we’re not obeying Him, it’s all rather meaningless.

I believe, with all my heart, that the Lord is showing me, almost continually, that the modern-day Church and Christians, myself included, in general are wallowing in apostasy. It actually makes me feel ill at times.

What is the Church supposed to be? Firstly, it is called to be a body of believers who are, together, pursuing (finding or employing measures to obtain or accomplish) conformity to God’s will and purposes. They should be totally abandoned to, and committed to, even unto death, if necessary, being and doing what the Lord has called them to be and do.

We can clearly see this truth in the life (and death) of our Lord, Jesus. Everything he was and did was utterly given over to His Father for the accomplishing of His will and purposes. I don’t think it is necessary for me to quote scripture passages to support this statement.

Nothing was held back. Even when He had to face unbelievable suffering, pain, humiliation and death, he said, “Not my will, but yours, Father, be done.” He didn’t want to go through those things. Nevertheless, He chose to obey His Father.

Believers are called to live and walk in exactly the same way. Are we unaware of this? I will offer here just a few of the many scriptures to support that statement.

Luke 14:25-34: 25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. 27 And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple. 28 “Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. Will he not first sit down and estimate the cost to see if he has enough money to complete it? 29 For if he lays the foundation and is not able to finish it, everyone who sees it will ridicule him, 30 saying, ‘This fellow began to build and was not able to finish.’ 31 “Or suppose a king is about to go to war against another king. Will he not first sit down and consider whether he is able with ten thousand men to oppose the one coming against him with twenty thousand? 32 If he is not able, he will send a delegation while the other is still a long way off and will ask for terms of peace. 33 In the same way, any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple. 34 “Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? 35 It is fit neither for the soil nor for the manure pile; it is thrown out. “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”

Matthew 8:21-22: 21 Another disciple said to him, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.” 22 But Jesus told him, “Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.”

Phil 3:7-15: I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God and is by faith. 10 I want to know Christ and the power of his resurrection and the fellowship of sharing in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, 11and so, somehow, to attain to the resurrection from the dead. 12 Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13 Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. 15 All of us who are mature should take such a view of things.

So, what’s the problem? The problem is, we talk about these issues, and have interesting bible studies, and listen to excellent sermons by talented preachers, and say, “Preach it, Brother!” but… we don’t DO! We hear, but we don’t do what the Lord says to do.

Nobody really expects us to do them. Let’s be reasonable. Don’t we all have busy lives? And many responsibilities? And jobs? And families? And bills to pay? Aren’t there other things in life, too?

And, of course, there is a difference between “believers” (those who are “saved” and going to heaven) and “disciples” (those who really serve the Lord and will receive “rewards”). Right? Wrong. Jesus and the clear testimony of scripture know of no such distinction. You are a disciple, or you are a worker of iniquity.

Secondly, believers and the Church are called to express, in real and observable ways, the very life, nature and ways of God. They should, in actual reality, look like, sound like, act like, and BE just like their Lord, Jesus.

I’m not talking about “imitating” Him. This is something the modern Church likes to talk about a lot. This is why we have programs and projects and outreaches and retreats and seminars and we feed and clothe the poor and we invite our neighbors to Church or revival week or the Christmas show. Well, at least we do some of these things, some of the time.

I’m talking about being as He is, expressing His very life and nature, and seeing incredibly good and glorious things simply pouring forth from our lives, because that’s what we are. This reality, when it is witnessed by men, will prove the reality of God and His love for them and either draw them to God, or cause them to hate us; one or the other. It was this way for the early Church. Why is it, or should it be different for us?

Jesus said, in John 17:3, that to know God is eternal life. He defined eternal life as knowing God. Biblically, to know God means to be like Him and express His very ways. If we look at the following scriptures together as a whole, that truth will become apparent.

Jeremiah 9: 23-24: 23 Thus says the LORD: “ Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, Let not the mighty man glory in his might, Nor let the rich man glory in his riches; 24 But let him who glories glory in this, That he understands and knows Me, That I am the LORD, exercising lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. For in these I delight,” says the LORD.

Jeremiah 22:13-16: 13 “ Woe to him who builds his house by unrighteousness And his chambers by injustice, Who uses his neighbor’s service without wages And gives him nothing for his work, 14 Who says, ‘I will build myself a wide house with spacious chambers, And cut out windows for it, Paneling it with cedar And painting it with vermilion.’ 15 “ Shall you reign because you enclose yourself in cedar? Did not your father eat and drink, and do justice and righteousness? Then it was well with him. 16 He judged the cause of the poor and needy; Then it was well. Was not this knowing Me?” says the LORD.

2 Peter 1: 2-11: 2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, 3 as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins. 10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

1 John 2:3-6: 3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

1 John 4:16-17: 16 And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love (in other words, in the nature of God) lives in God, and God in him. 17 In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him.

We can have confidence, or boldness, on the day of judgment, not because we prayed a prayer, or joined a Church, or do nice and good things for the poor and needy, or “believed” the gospel on September 16, 1937, but because we are like Jesus, our Lord, because we bear His image and likeness.

This is knowing God! This is eternal life!

A final, very important passage we should look at concerning knowing God is in Jeremiah 31 (with a look at a parallel passage also in Ezekiel):

Jeremiah 31:31-34: 31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

This is God’s actual promise of the New Covenant, and we should take note of two vital aspects of it.

First, the core, central issue expressed here is that God’s law will be in the hearts and minds of His people, resulting in their “knowing Him”. What God is looking for is a people who walk according to the righteousness of His law, not by external, religious observance of law, but by a changed, renewed heart and mind.

The parallel passage in Ezekiel says:

Ezekiel 36: 25-27: 25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.

So, it is obvious from the two major passages concerning the giving of a New Covenant that God Himself intends to enable His people to know Him and to walk in a pure, righteous manner. This is the purpose of the New Covenant.

The second point we need to see in the Jeremiah 31 passage is this… that the forgiveness of sin is a means unto an end, not the central issue of the gospel as we have made it today. It’s really not about forgiveness of sin and a ticket to heaven, but about being pure, holy, righteous people as God originally intended us to be, as Jesus was and is.

Read the passage again carefully, and you will see that the forgiveness of sin is almost spoken of as an afterthought, tacked on at the end of what God is telling us. It is clearly a means unto an end. The cleansing from sin is necessary in order for God to be able to deal with us as His people at all, but it is not essentially the core issue of the gospel or the New Covenant.

The “sheep” in Matthew 25 are praised by the Lord and invited to come into the kingdom. Why? Because they fed the hungry, clothed the naked, visited those who were sick or in prison, etc.

So, what does the modern Church do (occasionally)? They feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit prisoners, etc. Why? Because they are aware of Matthew 25 and want to do the “right” things. It’s all external.

Think about this: The sheep in Matthew 25 were not aware of Matthew 25. If they were they would have known and understood why the Lord was praising them for ministering unto HIM.

What’s the point? The point is that the sheep did what they did because of who and what they were, not because they were “trying” to do right and serve the Lord externally.

Anybody, even the lowest, vilest sinners, can do nice, good and kind things. I believe I’ve heard that Hitler loved his dog. Even Mafia hit-men and bosses are capable of doing “nice” or “kind” things for others, and inviting neighbors to Church. The issue is, what’s motivating these deeds?

There are many things that can and do motivate good or kind deeds. They are all sin, except one; the life and nature of God being manifest through you.

Are believers in this day and age, and the Church as a whole, pursuing (finding or employing measures to obtain or accomplish) conformity to God’s will and purposes? Or expressing, in real and observable ways, the very life, nature and ways of God? Absolutely not.

I’m not saying there is absolutely no reality of these things in the life of believers and the Church. What I’m saying is that, for the most part, these two central, core realities are very absent, and it is a great tragedy (a disastrous event), and there will be horrible consequences, and many people will be struck dumb before the Lord on that day, and many will hear, “Depart from me, you workers of iniquity,” to their eternal shock and shame.

Jesus once said, “You strain out a gnat and swallow a camel.” We do the same. We can get focused on a million-and-one things, including prophecy and end-time events, gifts of the Spirit, evangelism, biblical stewardship, the doctrines of health and prosperity, inner healing, casting out demons, home schooling, and the timing of the rapture.

If we can focus on all these things and more, why can’t the body of Christ focus on the two core, central issues, which are pursuing conformity to God’s will and purposes and expressing, in real and observable ways, the very life, nature and ways of God?

I think I know why. It’s because those core central issues are not pleasing to our self-seeking, self-preserving, egotistical, spoiled flesh, so we figure out all kinds of ways to nullify or dodge them. Our “pastors and leaders” are especially good at this. The problem is: We can’t nullify them or dodge them. These core, central issues have been set in place by God, Himself. Are we wiser than He? Stronger?

Yes. Yes. I’ve heard it all before. I’m critical, judgmental, self-righteous. Who am I to say these things about the Church of the living God? Don’t I, myself, have sins and failures in my own life?

I’ve earnestly prayed for the Lord to show me if these things are so. If I’m passing critical judgment on believers or the Church, I want to and need to see it, and turn from it. I truly, sincerely do.

What happens? The conviction becomes stronger and clearer as time goes on that I am just seeing “the tip of the iceberg”; that the apostasy and fallenness of our modern Church is so great that I can’t even bear to truly see it.

I’m so tired of seeing believers, myself included, seeking after pleasures, entertainment, ease, comfort, diversions, riches and fame (all for the Lord’s glory, of course), respect and honor, recognition, and position, inside and outside the Church. The list goes on and on.

I’m so sick and tired of hearing, “We’re doing our best,” and, “The Church has always had problems. Why don’t you join in and help instead of criticizing?” and, “Stop judging and start loving,” and, “We are all called to grow where we are planted,” and, “So, are you living this life you talk about?” and, “We’re not perfect, just forgiven.” This is all a bunch of nonsense, just lame excuses. The fact is, the Lord has given us all things pertaining to life and godliness. There really are no excuses, only extreme accountability.

The truth is, we are unwilling to hear the Lord and obey Him, myself included (please don’t think, even for a moment, that I think I have it all together). We have believed a modern, man-centered “gospel” and we don’t want to truly deny ourselves, take up our cross and follow Him. We like to believe we can have what this world offers, and Jesus and heaven, too; that we can serve God and our own desires and agendas, too; that we can be Christians and be liked and accepted by the world, too. But the reality is, we’re just fooling ourselves.

Or are we? Are we really fooling ourselves? Or do we truly know, deep down in our heart and soul, that we are not pursuing conformity to God’s will and purposes? Or expressing, in real and observable ways, the very life, nature and ways of God? Don’t we really know that we have a form of godliness, but deny the true power of such (suffering, self-denial, death and resurrection life)?

I believe that we have to know it. We have to. The question is, will there be a willingness to turn from our sin, and confess to God and each other; and do the necessary things in order for there to be true revival among God’s people; and honor and glory received by our awesome Lord and Savior, Jesus, the Christ? Will there be any willingness to turn away from our lame, pathetic, rotting “Christian” activities, services and so-called fellowship, and turn toward God and a true, costly, biblical discipleship?


8 Responses to “Apostasy?”

  1. Gene,

    Words cannot express how I agree with all you have written here…and like you stated above,

    “I’m so tired of seeing believers, myself included, seeking after pleasures, entertainment, ease, comfort, diversions, riches and fame (all for the Lord’s glory, of course), respect and honor, recognition, and position, inside and outside the Church. The list goes on and on.”

    and

    “I’ve earnestly prayed for the Lord to show me if these things are so. If I’m passing critical judgment on believers or the Church, I want to and need to see it, and turn from it. I truly, sincerely do.”

    Gene, like you, I do not entertain the thought that I have perfected this walk, far from it!!…but at the same time I cannot deny what God is revealing to me about MYSELF and main stream Christianity.

    I lack the ability in the use of the right words and the knowledge of Scripture that you seem to possess – and the confidence to express what God has revealed to me – though I pray that He will guide my thoughts and actions in all I do, I still tend to get in the way – - doubt wins far too often.

    Thanks for this post, for it has been a blessing to me, for it has reiterated what God has revealed to me.

  2. I have to comment. I am not a member of this site and will not sign up because of the abuse of the scriptures that occurs. I have followed several links and the same occurance is taking place at most of the sites. Scriptures are taken out of the original context, words and meanings of words are twisted to fit the poverty minded “correct’ doctrine. The scripture repeatedly says that God is a God of new beginnings and He will do new things, but Heaven forbid that God do something that is not recorded in a 2000-6000 years old scripture. Miracles and the supernatural are castigated, although God can Heal, if is be His will, but definately not through Benny Hinn or any other servant of God. The scripture says God will make us weathly and rich and the poverty minded immediatelty climb onto the wealthy to mean rich in Grace. What RUBBISH the original means RICH & WEALTHY like Abraham was rich in goods.

    Let me leave you with a nugget to chew on. (AND DO NOT TWIST THE MEANING, it is very plain). In “Matthew 10:8  Jesus said “Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.” This is repeated again several times in the Gospels.” Jesus said “heal the sick. He did not say go and pray for the sick and HOPE they will get healed. HE said you go and heal the sick with the power I have given within you. Read it its there. When Jesus prayed for all the believers he He said to God you have given me the authority, and now I have given it to them. If you are a believer, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY. Thats what all the men and women of God are doing, the ones that you are castigating.

    Please shut this site down. The teaching and interpretations are false and you are miss leading God children. Alternately get someone who knows the correct original scripture.

    Ralph

  3. Ralph,

    You said:

    //Let me leave you with a nugget to chew on. (AND DO NOT TWIST THE MEANING, it is very plain). In “Matthew 10:8 Jesus said “Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.” This is repeated again several times in the Gospels.” Jesus said “heal the sick. He did not say go and pray for the sick and HOPE they will get healed.//

    I say something very similar to this in more than one of my papers, although I suspect your view of this is different than mine.

    You make a lot of vague, generalized statements. If you’d care to make some remarks that have clear, specific reference to things I’ve said, I will address them.

  4. Ralph, I suggest you pray for truth and let God soften your heart. Do you honestly believe Benny Hinn is genuine? Do you honestly think that wealth is everything.. are we not to collect for ourselves treasure in heaven where moth and dust cannot destroy it.. Where you heart is, is where your treasure lies… Did Jesus come in wealthy clothing, demand fancy cars? I don’t think so! He came as a humble servant and that is what we should be doing.

  5. Getting There and others, Thank you for your hollow concern. I know I do not have the full truth and I do not pretend to have it, but I also know that I will not force my ‘revelation’ of the truth which God gives to ME for me to live my life onto others. Yes I know there is a core doctrine which is not negotiable and clear. I also will not condemn and judge other leaders when I do not know where they are with the Lord or wha the Lord is abput to do in their lives, even if do appear to off the mark at the moment.

    You can couch your words as discernement, judgement, argument or anything else. It remains, you are judging men and women who you have know knoledge of their position before christ. You are making your judgement call from news reports, video snippets, and maybe even heresay. That judgement will return to you one day.

    There is a scriptures that comes mind:
    Matthew 23:13-33 (Jesus own words)

  6. Gene, my name is Daniel, and I declare the one true gospel as the Christ, Yeshua died for our sins according to the scriptures, He was buried and He rose again the third day according to the scriptures. All understanding comes from the scriptures of the prophets in light of the Christ’s, Yeshua, death for our sins, His burial and His resurrection the third day. I say these things at the first so you may clearly know the Spirit I speak.

    The word apostasy is untranslated and is anglicized from the Greek word “apostasion” which means “stand apart”. In the context of 2 Thes 2:3 it means “stand apart” or “fall away” from the true grace of God. It must be falling away or standing apart from something. It is falling away from the true grace of God, the one true gospel. (This is in direct contradiction to the false doctrine of once saved always saved!) Men falling from the grace of God, or apostate. These are false prophets who have known the truth, and now preach a false gospel (which is no gospel at all.) It is these who Jude writes of, “These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.” Or who the writer of Hebrews declares, “For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they should fall away, to be renewed again unto repentance.”

    These are they who are reprobate concerning the faith: of an unapproving mind. It is they who John wrote of (1 John 2:19), They went out from us, but they were not of us, for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us.”

    In the day we live, a generation of judgment, the falling away has already occurred (and the man of sin, the son of perdition has been revealed). And the word of the Lord is:
    “Fear God and give glory to Him. FOr the hour of His judgment is come…”
    “Babylon is fallen, is fallen…” Her judgment is as sure as if it has already occurred.
    “If any man HAS worshipped the beast and his image, and receive a mark in his forehead or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine undiluted in the cup of His wrath….” (Rev 14:7-11)

    As far as who are the false prophets the word of the Lord by Jeremiah is true for our hour, “all the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priest bare rule by their own means, and my people love to have it so.” All the prophets prophesy falsely. But God does have a people, the children of grace who will be saved from the wrath to come by His grace and mercy, and with understanding.

    Daniel

  7. The question of Apostacy and false prophecy can be two different matters. As Daniel [above] points out, apostacy is the change of a claim. First, an individual said – I amd Christ’s – later they fall away and blasphemed the Name they once owned. 1John 2;19 shows that their first claim was false and because they were shown up as fruitless, the Pretenders, Mtt 13;24ff, they renaged and left the church and apostatised, becoming the Apostates.
    False propehts come in various hues, but a child of God can be a false prophet, Acts 20;30, some of the Ephesian elders would twist scripture to lead away disciples for themselves. It is these who are the biggest problem for a church, but the gift of discernment is quite sufficent to mark such men.
    Most people who have a reasonable grasp of the NT will be able to identify the ‘big money’ false prophets, like many of the TV Con men. They love their money and we know where that ends!
    We need to stick close to the NT as possible; the OT is very useful for pictures and illustrations, but don’t make doctrine from it. OT Doctrine is for Israel, it is different to NT doctrine and we need to remember that Israel’s blessings will be earthly, they are God’s Chosen Earthly People; while the church is God’s Chosen Heavenly People and the blessings are primarily spiritual. Israel, during the Kingdom will represent Messiah on earth. The Church will represent Christ in heavenly places, that New Jerusalem, Rev 21;9ff – coming down from heaven from God – I like the idea that it will be a ‘city in the sky’, [check the Greek prepositions] We builders and architects have dreamed long to do that, I believe that Jesus will show us how to do it! How wonderful! It will be easy for Him!
    Let’s look and pray for his coming so that he will get all the glory – its long overdue, by our time! But the Day is set and I believe, not that far away! He that has this hope, purifies himself, 1John 3;3. That’s the knowledge of the forgiveness of sins!
    Blessings – Graham

  8. Gene, I am a new comer to this web site of yours. I have been reading it for several days now and I have agreed with everything I have read so far. I have been “outside the camp”, so to speak for about 10 years now. I have been in search of others, who like myself, would like to meet and begin following the Lord in complete obedience to Him. My problem has been, that I have not found anyone, who is willing to lay down their lives and follow Him. So, I continue on my own doing His will and walking in His ways alone. I am just thankful for this website that believes the way I do. Thank you so much for the encouragment I receive as I continue to read.

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